cristal-charm-school-episode-4With two of four Caucasian sisters expelled from the first three episodes of 'Charm School', you wondered if Mo'Nique would send home another in Episode 4. Probably not I thought; so Buckwild (Becky) and Pumkin (Brooke) were safe this week.
(Just as well because we all know there aren't enough white people on television.)

Of course the real drama would be the reaction to Serious (Cristal) after she weaseled her way out of responsibility for Like Dat's (Darra) dress. And that's where Charm School Episode 4 began...

The opening scene featured Buckeey (Shay) stating the game is "getting very dirty", a reference to Cristal who is now enemy #1 because she got rid of a girl (Toasteee) whom no one wanted around.
Of course Becky didn't see it that way and she had to let us know that "after last night with Cristal ratting me out to Mo'....I am watching everything that comes out of her mouth"
(join the queue, babes; I stare at her sexy mouth all the time)

Before the hate and envy could get worse Mo'Nique interrupts with an intercom message to say the lesson today will be taught at another school (another?) and governed by the Fifth Commandment of Charm School -Thou Shalt Spit Mad Game With Style.
The other school turned out to be California State University, Fullerton; where they would be schooled on the art of effective communication by the Cal-State debate team.

bruschke-episode-4As the girls entered the debate room we are treated to the tail-end of a speech condemning torture at Guantanamo Bay (these sanctimonious Liberals always piss me off with their holier than thou crap. Is it a coincidence that they had to air this anti-Bush nonsense?)

Anyways, the debate would be chaired by Dr Jon Bruschke (who looks like he's burnt a flag or two) who advises them on how you win a debate.
But his debate jargon didn't impress Saaphyri, "the teach he thought he was a 'master-bater'...I mean a master debater". She presented her own rules of argument:


  1. You cut them down low

  2. You hit them from the bottom of waist

  3. You cut them off whenever they talk

  4. You make sure that they don't talk back

(sounds like the way I pick-up women)
Bruschke chose teams (why?). Team A was Hottie (Schatar), Brooke, Goldie (Courtney), Bootz (Larissa), Smiley (Leilene)
And the others were Team B, naturally. The only thing worth mentioning is that Dr Jon messed up Saaphyri's name (he pronounced it as 'Safira') which proves co-incidence has a sense of humor.

So the teams skedaddled to their different rooms and the scene shifted to Team A; tutored by Tony, a white-looking black guy (obviously he couldn't tutor Team B because he and Becky would have confused the hell out of them)
Tony, totally bamboozled Leilene with sentences like, "one of the ways in which we support claims in a debate is by reading quotations from an author that's qualified in the field"
(I'd have been confused too; because he sounds like a claims adjuster, not a masterbater)

Turns out Leilene only got to the 10th or 11th grade (probably repeated 10th grade) which doesn't mean she's dumb, but means she's dumb enough to admit she doesn't understand (lmao. We all know Bootz, Brooke and Courtney were similarly clueless)

Meanwhile Team B (tutored by a woman who should be a lesbian, because women don't scorn)...
::::Wait. Hold up. I shouldn't have said that; but it's funny so I'll keep it there. But just know I didn't mean it.::::
Okay, so Team B's much more intelligent tutor decides they should practice (that's an idea, why didn't Team A's tutor think of that?) and their first topic is 'Larissa has anger management problems' with Cristal for the affirmative and Shay for the negative.

cristal-eliminated-episode-4Simple for Cristal, you'd think, and her argument was, "Larissa has an anger management problem, I think everyone in the house has seen her blow-up" (uhmmm, we'll need a bit more than that Cristal).
Shay, countered with, "I think Larissa does not have an anger management problem. She came into the house this way and, it's just the way she was raised. She obviously has issues with her parents that you don't know about"
(Now, I am no masterbater, well actually I am...but; how in the f*ck does that say Larissa does not have an anger management problem?)

They debated a second topic but it's not worth writing about because I was caught up in Cristal's traffic-light red bra. (I've said it before and I'll say it again. That girl is sexier than Oprah writing a cheque)

It was all fun and games until Keith Lewis (remember him? The Simon Cowell of Charm School) announced, "...in one hour, you are going to face off, in a tournament debate, in front of a live audience for your next test"
(that sucked the air out of Saaphyri's breasts)

And he announced a topic too...'All the people on Courtney's team should be expelled from Charm School'
saaphyri-buckwild-episode-4But the first test was actually condemning a Team member to the bench as only four were permitted to debate. This was a crucial decision because the benched team member was open to elimination regardless of their team winning or not.
The winning team's four debaters would be exempt from elimination
(I hope that made sense to any reader out there with a 10th grade education)

Team A benched Leilene because she's not a fighter, Goldie says. But Leilene's actually smarter than these mooks, because she knows the 4 of them will vote her to the bench anyway; so why fight like Custer?

Team B dropped Cristal to the bleachers because Becky hated her, Saaphyri envied her, Darra was seething about her feather weave and Shay would stab herself in the back if she thought it'd make her win.
Shay tried to console Cristal as they walked to the debate-room but Cristal brushed her aside saying, "I don't want to be touched right now"
Buckeey interpreted that as Serious being selfish; I interpreted that as Buckeey being an asshole.

The Debate
goldie-hotie-episode-4As the girls lined up in speaking order, Serious 'worked on' Mikki Taylor and Keith Lewis trying to explain her side of the story (what side? They don't like you...deal with it!)
But it was debate time and first up was Becky Johnston (aka Buckwild, aka Becky Buckwild, aka Rebecca Johnston)
Her opposing debater was Brooke (aka Pumkin, aka the spitter, aka the bi-curious lesbian heterosexual). Pumkin matched the oratorical skills of Ms. Johnston but threw her good work away when she opined, "I've learnt that spitting on New York was not necessarily the best thing to do"
(you've only just learnt that? You cunt!)

Next up were the Bobsey twins (according to Hottie), Larissa and Shay.
larissa-mumble-episode-4Shay mocked Larissa, then warned us that Bootz either gets mad or tongue-twisted (when she's attacked, she meant to say, because Bootz spoke fluently for two reality shows)

Turns out Shay must spend too much time with Bootz, because her (Larissa's) response was just as forewarned, "the judges, err, the judges, we don't listen to the judges...well I think that if we don't listen to the judges, we should listen to the judges and the whole point is that, when..if there's, if the judges need to teach us something, there's no point being in Charm School if you know everything"
(and this girl called Leilene, stupid?)

Saaphyri stepped to the podium -with Hottie from the opposing team- but directed her question to Brooke, "why did you feel that shaking your breast was the appropriate action?"
(the appropriate action for what? And why are you talking to Brooke, slurpee head?)

Hottie made many attempts to answer but was interrupted each time by Saaphyri and that prompted Goldie to finally say something funny, "Saaphyri turned into Johnnie Cochrane. The bitch thought she was in the OJ Trial"
(lmao, after one and half reality shows and all those segments on the V-Spot, finally, Goldie says something funny)

Darra and Goldie delivered the closing arguments but Darra completely missed the point of her team's focus. Goldie wasn't Martin Luther King at the Lincoln Memorial but she was on topic, at least.

It was time for the decision and Dr Bruschke awarded it to Goldie's team.
Buckwild was unimpressed and the Charm School Deans and Prinicpal were similarly unimpressed. Mo'Nique actually queried the decision with Bruschke
(afterall he just has a Ph. D in this shit; wtf does he know?)

Notwithstanding all that, Mo'Nique felt she had to tell off the winning team before congratulating them because she felt they were celebrating a "false victory" (wtf?)
bootz-angry-episode-4That angered Bootz, "I think She's a hater" and spoke up about it (oh-oh)

Bootz: It's funny when I don't get an attitude it ain't good enough. That's what I feel. When I was up there I didn't cuss nobody up, I didn't do anything like that. And I feel like ain't nothing good enough. That pisses me off (breaking into tears)

Mo'Nique: (interrupting and leaping from behind her table to confront Bootz) it should, it should!
It should piss you off to say, you know what...It should piss you off so much that you should say 'let me check my ass'.

They went on and on until Bootz said, "I think that you just don't like me. And that's your issue with me."

Mo'Nique: well I don't like Larissa. Larissa, as I told you, you ain't that special for me to pull you out and say I don't like you, and the reason I am having this conversation with you is because not too long ago, Mo'Nique was Larissa (your ass was never that skinny. Never!)
And somebody had to dig in my ass , repeatedly; and said "listen little girl, grow up! Because you walk around with a chip on your shoulder. Life will whip your ass if you keep acting like that."
Grow up, know what you're talking about before you start talking. Now, you done pissed me off

With that she walked away and the debate finally ended.

Leilene's meltdown
To wind down after the tense end to the debate the girls headed on over to the 'Off Campus Pub' and the girls went bananas.
Pumkin was hanging on to some guys tongue, Buckwild was hanging on to some guys face and Leilene couldn't let go of Bootz' attitude with Mo'Nique.

They got into it (Larissa and Leilene) and when things got heated Bootz brought up Leilene's children and her stripping. That got to Leilene and she bolted out the pub door as Bootz faked an attempt to hit her and slapped Buckwild's arm instead.
Outside Leilene pulled her usual lament, "I know why I'm dancing. If I have to dance and swallow my pride to put food on the table, I will do that with integrity and pride. I am not ashamed of that"
(at this point I am ready for elimination because I am tired of all this girlie shit)

The Elimination Ceremony
At Elimination Mo'Nique again reiterated to Bootz that she "needs to grow up" and continued her obsession with anal sex, "when life gets a hold of you, there's no Vaseline. It simply bends you over. And it's very painful"

cristal-legsIn order, the three called "down tot he carpet" were, Saaphyri, Cristal and Leilene.

Keith and Mikki gave Leilene the usual speech, whilst Keith seemed sympathetic to Cristal.
But as usual, the woman, Mikki, was hating on the beautiful girl, Cristal. (predictable)
And then the clue came thta Cristal was at risk...Mikki Taylor said Saaphyri did so much better than expected (wtf did you expect? You thought she'd kill somebody? She did nothing right!)

Leilene was returned to the upper area and it was down to Saaphyri and Cristal. Mo'Nique said it was "the toughest decision by far" but it was also the worst decision by far because Mo'Nique expelled Cristal in Episode 4
(it's tough to be pretty)

Laterz; thanks for reading.

303 comments

  1. Matt // 7/5/07 12:19 AM  

    Man... watching Serious be sent off... I sighed, and died a bit on the inside.

    Oh well, I know I'll still watch, despite my favorite being sent home. Bootz and Buckeey are still there.

  2. steups // 7/5/07 12:27 AM  

    I know what you're saying mate...err matt, lol.

    Mo'Nique threw away 100000 thousand male viewers when she kicked off Cristal

  3. Anonymous // 7/5/07 12:37 AM  

    it wasn't Mo'Nique it was that idiot debate instructor who gave the wrong call, Steups, Mo'Nique didn't agree with his lame brain decision, thus she really didn't have a choice, but i agree i will miss seeing her fine ass.

  4. Matt // 7/5/07 12:40 AM  

    Damn, 100,000? Well, I mean, for real, I was angry she left... but still, no matter what happens, I'll watch all these spin-off shows that have to do with Flav and his women.

    Without Serious, it just wont be the same... but they is always, as I stated above, Buckeey and Bootz.

    Oh yeah, you can always laugh as long as Hottie is there too.

  5. steups // 7/5/07 12:59 AM  

    True, Bootz looks sexier by the day. I slept on her.

    And Buckeey always looks good. Always!

  6. steups // 7/5/07 5:37 AM  

    Give me a few minutes to add pictures

  7. Anonymous // 7/5/07 5:48 AM  

    Steups I'm bout tired of your racist remarks the remix wasn't actually a white boy mix it was a mexican mix but you didn't have balls enough to print that wouldn't wanna offend any mexicans latinos or niggas as you would say your insecurity of white men is obvious and pathetic like you

  8. Anonymous // 7/5/07 5:50 AM  

    then further up in articals you make another referance bout as if there wasn't enough white people take the first ship back to africa "brotha man"

  9. steups // 7/5/07 5:54 AM  

    Those guys are Germans not Mexicans; I think.
    And I said white boy because it's the only remix of the song with white men only.

    But if you think I am racist, complain to CBS or something. Maybe they'll fire me.

  10. Anonymous // 7/5/07 7:04 AM  

    Steups I don't understand you at all.
    You support Bush and you are a Democrat. You hate Whiteboy but you never say anything bad about Buckwild.

    You hate Pumpkin and Goldie who are the kindest people on the show but you like Cristal and Larissa and Shay who are mean to all the girls.

    You say you like plus sized women but you always have something to say about Darra or Monique.

    Make up your mind please. Cristal had to go because she loves herself too much.

  11. Anonymous // 7/5/07 7:05 AM  

    The recap was good

  12. Aurelius (aka bhattipimpin88) // 7/5/07 7:19 AM  

    That sucked that Cristal was expelled. Nice recap though

  13. Bubo the Hater // 7/5/07 8:01 AM  

    If Whiteboy had some DD's, maybe Steups would like him. The thing about Rebecca Jonston, she is fun and outgoing, non-pretentious. Whiteboy tries too hard to be hard. IMO, they both have a bit of phon in them, but at east Buckwild doesn't give a f--k.

    It was nice seeing these young people molded by their liberal professors into Bush hating reactionairies.

  14. Anonymous // 7/5/07 8:04 AM  

    super recap steups but crystal had to go

  15. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 9:37 AM  

    Morning all. :) I hope u guys had a wonderful weekend (I did). I went to my cousin's wedding yesterday, he and that lady of his finally tied the knot after 9yrs and one child (thank you Jesus).

    OK back to the matter at hand.

    Steups you did a fantastic job with the recap.

    I was somewhat confused as to what really happend with Bootz and Smiley regarding the "Lash" because it looked as if Bootz hit her but then I thought "Nah" cause I know if that happpened Smiley would not of just walked away like that (I hope).

    Yeah Chrystal had to go home. It was her time to go. Plus even Leilene makes a more interesting story line than her.

    I for one am very interested in seeing Leilene improve.

    Oh and I think Larissa will kick her own self off the show with that "Attitude Problem" that she has its getting really old now even for me and I like to see me some action now and again.

    Saaphyri had me cracking up the entire episode.lol I hope they kept her around a long time because she and Schatar are the life of the show.lol

    (Now what does Saaphyri mean anywayz and who gave her that name?)

  16. The Purple Mist // 7/5/07 10:29 AM  

    Good morning everyone! Congrats to your cousin Miss Electra :-) I love it when couples who have made a whole family together finally make it official. It's a beautiful thing!

    Great recaps Steups. I know you'll miss Cristal being around, but you have to it admit, Mo was right when she said that Cristal was very comfortable being Cristal. IMO I really don't think she needed to change. In her line of work, she has to be someone that commands attention, and she obviously loves that, so why change it? Go back to working the modeling honey, this show was definitely a waste of your time.

    I hate to admit it, but my feelings for Bootz are starting to be a bit mixed. I still think she is a loudmouth who is more bark than bite, but she did make a valid point with both Monique and Leilene(from what I could decipher through the "niggaspeak" as Elle would say). She may have some trouble expressing her thoughts verbally(without screeching like a drowning cat), but she isn't stupid, I'll give her that.

  17. steups // 7/5/07 10:35 AM  

    Bubo - too right about these Professors; they are almost predator like in stuffing their opinions into the minds of students.
    Mind you Bush has an awful lot of crap he's responsible for and I won't argue with anyone who says he is a poor President.

    But he's not a demon and he's not a fool

    Electra - fantastic comment from you and long too. But why Thank you Jesus?
    I am certain Jesus was in their life throughout the 9 years

    Mysty - no praise for the length of comment for you because that's par for the course where you're concerned.
    I agree with you on Bootz, there is just something likeable about her.

    I disagree on Cristal, just because she didn't need to change doesn't mean she couldn't improve.

  18. Anonymous // 7/5/07 10:43 AM  

    Steups the flag burning comment was over the top. Keep your Republican rhetoric to yourself, thank you.

  19. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 11:48 AM  

    Well Steups, I thanked God because at one time (facts I know of personally) I thought they would not make it to this point and I am VERY HAPPY to see that they have made this commitment to each other. :)

    Misty girl, thank you very much. :)

    I'll miss him though because he got a very lucrative job in Scotland and he is leaving me :( (we are very close).

    Still I am very happy for them.:)

    Oh Steups guess who his best man was? Kerston Manswell.lol

    Oh and did u see my uncle blocking Panday from entering the P........ a couple of weeks ago? That was the talk of the wedding yesterday (well besides d Bride and Groom)

  20. The Purple Mist // 7/5/07 11:52 AM  

    LOL I know I can ramble Steups, I can't help it when I come to this blog :-). I do agree with you in a sense about Cristal, that everyone always has something about themselves to improve on. But she never really stood out as someone who was so immersed in undignified behavior that she needed to better herself, IMO. And like I said, someone like her, who is in a career where you have to stand out, and be sure of yourself and command attention, being a demure little fluff just wouldn't work. So there was really no point in her being there.

    I'm not a Bush fan and I'm counting the days until his term is over, but PLEASE can we not get political up in here? This box will explode, I guarantee it.

    Steups, I think what Electra meant(and correct me if I'm wrong, girl), is not that Jesus wasn't in their lives before, but the fact that they've finally married and committed to one another in holy matrimony after so long is a beautiful thing. I have a lot of respect for the baby mamas that are doing their thing and providing for their families, but I will never understand why there are some men out there who think a woman is good enough to be the mother of their children, but not good enough to be their wife and claiming they are "not ready for marriage" **coughDIDDYcough**

    Ugh, here I go again...sorry >_>

  21. Anonymous // 7/5/07 11:55 AM  

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  22. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 12:00 PM  

    Oh and for the record, everyone knows that Bootz is not stupid, its her always defensive attitude that is stupid.

    One thing I have learnt is that its not all the time you will say what's on your mind. You must learn when to talk, what to talk and how to talk.

    King Solomon in all his wisdom stated - A foolish man speaks everything on his mind (or something like dat).

  23. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 12:05 PM  

    Yes Misty girl you are correct (high 5). *winks* :)

  24. Anonymous // 7/5/07 12:21 PM  

    I am glad cristal is gone. She is useless anyways. Btw, what's up with this whore name?

    I loved the anti Bush segment. I wish there was more footage. Keep it up VH1..

  25. Matt // 7/5/07 12:24 PM  

    LOLOLZ THAT B FUNNY!1!!1!!11!!!

    right?

    Shut up, anon.

  26. steups // 7/5/07 12:25 PM  

    I feel you Mysty, but unwed mothers is my preferred description, lol.

    Manswell? Electra? He talks so damn much.

    Anon, VH1 wouldn't dare. I'll put the Factor on thier asses

  27. steups // 7/5/07 12:27 PM  

    And :::wince::: at that DListed link.
    Lawd hammercy.

  28. Shoogie Baby // 7/5/07 12:32 PM  

    I'm glad Cristal left that chick was way too stuck on herself. As for Bootz she was working my nerves and Monique was about to tap that a**. Shay is my favorite Charm school girl anyway. As long as she stays they have a viewer in me.

  29. The Purple Mist // 7/5/07 12:38 PM  

    LOL Steups, you're a trip. If that's the case, how many people have called you "Daddy" over the years...wait, wait, wait, don't answer that *rolls eyes*

    Shoogie Baby, I'm starting to like Shay too, she's always seemed like a cool chick. I think, you'd really have to push her buttons to get her mad, like Krazy did that time on the balcony. I have a feeling some ish is going to go down between her and Larissa later on though...

  30. steups // 7/5/07 12:43 PM  

    :::blushes:::
    Shay is clever but she's also scheming, if you ask me.
    Cristal is her friend from the ATL and she never once stood up for her

  31. Anonymous // 7/5/07 12:45 PM  

    I dont care for Bootz, Saaphyra (what is up with her hair, Buckwild, Pumpkin. Those chicks are too gutter..especially Pumpkin and Bootz.

    I like Lileine, Shay, Darra, and Schatar(she is cool under pressure).

    Lileine has the most potential.

  32. revenge // 7/5/07 12:46 PM  

    shatar gets on mynerves and i always feel like i want to yank that wig of her damn her damn head.

  33. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 12:48 PM  

    OH PLEASE Steups, the guy is standing up for what he believes is correct.

    Y everytime people take a stance dey are trouble makers or talks to much.

    What are u down with democracy or something?

    Please elaborate.

  34. steups // 7/5/07 12:49 PM  

    Dude, and Saaphyri had the balls to say Cristal has a "man face"

    Funny thing is I asked a woman here about that and she agreed.
    So, either it's true or women just love to hate this pretty girl

  35. steups // 7/5/07 12:50 PM  

    Afternoon Rev.
    What are you talkking about E?
    The Bush hater?

    Hahaha, that's a girl anonymous for sure. An East Coast, lady Democrat.

  36. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 12:51 PM  

    LOL @Rev. Anon like you Shatar is my fav. The reason being (as I have said so many times before) she knows when to fight and what to fight for and how to fight. She is always composed thereby able to think and not act out like an animal like......

    So yeah Shatar is my fav. Then Leilene then Saapyri

  37. steups // 7/5/07 12:54 PM  

    Schatar wasn't too composed when she threw the frame down, or tripped on her dress, lol.

    I don't know how they let her get away with that hair. Someone should have borrowed a lawn-mower and got rid of it

  38. steups // 7/5/07 12:55 PM  

    You never replied to my Dana-email, Electra. Any reason you can share?

  39. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 12:58 PM  

    I am talking about Kerston, what do u mean he talks too much? SO what he must not stand up for what he believes is correct? Is that what you are saying?

    Hmmmmmmph I think that you are part of one of the "business families" that pulls Manning's strings. Cause all I see is a puppet government anywayz. His government, the one before too.

    No wait you have family on the non-functional boxing board. Or maybe you are on dat Board cause really and truly no one knows who you really are anywayz.

    Lord alone knows who I am speaking to. Hmmmmmmm

  40. Anonymous // 7/5/07 12:59 PM  

    Steups....

    you got my juices flowing this afternoon......

    all down the sides of my legs..........

    can you come over and fuck me with that BIG FAT DICK?.......

  41. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 1:00 PM  

    Yes Steups you and everyone else is right about Hottie's poor excuse of hair on top of her head. However you must agree with me that she is one of the strongest on the show.

    (Oh and this is coming from a former Hottie hater).

    And what Dana-email are u talking about?

  42. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 1:02 PM  

    LOL Anon 12:59. From the way you write you seem very familiar. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmph.

    LMAO!!!!!!

  43. steups // 7/5/07 1:05 PM  

    Electra I sent you an email this morning

  44. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 1:12 PM  

    Got it Steups~!!!

  45. steups // 7/5/07 1:19 PM  

    Well I know that now, lmao.

  46. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 1:20 PM  

    Well Yeah (blushes).

  47. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 1:22 PM  

    Good day all! Hope everyones day is going well.

    Steups, excellent recap, as always.

  48. The Purple Mist // 7/5/07 1:24 PM  

    Electra I agree with you, I have to respect Schatar's ability to stay completely calm and composed no matter what was thrown at her. I think that's why the other girls rank on her so much because she never falters, so that means she's crazy, according to them. I'm with Revenge, though, I'm dying to see what's crawling all up under that wig of hers. And has the nerve to put rollers in it at night. If she has all that money and can afford to live in that mansion *rolls eyes* then can't she afford a stylist that will make her look better. I really want to know what she "does" to afford that mansion. Same thing with Bootz and her people. Just saying.

  49. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 1:25 PM  

    CTFU @ has nerve to put rollers in it. SMH... that heffas is a hot boiling mess.

  50. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 1:27 PM  

    LET ME CLEAR THIS UP FOR EVERYONE WHO THINKS THE DEBATE COUCH WAS EITHER UNFAIR OR TEACHING HIS STUDENTS TO BE ANTI-WHATEVER....

    I was on the debate team ALL 4 years of high school, even became the captain. In POLICY debate, your OPINION does not matter. You get a topic and u go through A MILLION files to come up with a plan to agree with the topic, the negative can only find evidence on why your arguement is wrong. When you go into the second round and debate another team, you are no longer affirmative you are negative, so you just find evidence that kills the affirmatives plans of action. Nothing about poilicy debate is opinionated until u get to the final contention speech which wraps up why you think you should win the debate.

    Larissa's team won because of Goldie's last speech which proved that they didn't "Policy wise" prove their case, emotionally they tore it up, but that's not what policy debate is about.

    I sat in plenty of debate rooms and had to argue that the status quo was fine the way it is, knowing that I didn't believe that. He was just teaching them, what they needed to know when they went into the debate rounds against competitors.

  51. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 1:29 PM  

    coach* not couch my bad

  52. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 1:29 PM  

    WOW... Im totally impressed with Gabrielle's comment...

    *Standing O*

  53. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 1:30 PM  

    Steups? Love? Are we no longer on speaking terms and I am unawares?

  54. steups // 7/5/07 1:30 PM  

    I've never seen you say I have an excellent recap before, Negrolicious.

    You usually reserve your effusive commentary for Groovy's recaps.

  55. steups // 7/5/07 1:33 PM  

    Gabrielle...I think we pretty much knew the PhD Professor had more credibility than the Pokemon Cristal hater.

    But even so Goldie was awful and said next to nothing.

  56. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 1:33 PM  

    I have in fact said that your previous recaps were excellent.

    And why you gotta take it to the asshole level regarding my comments on Groovy's recaps? Her recaps are funny too.

    That's what I never got about you. I don't think I've ever heard you direct a comment or statement towards me that wasn't chalk full of underhanded, disguised disgust. I'm wondering what I've done in this life or a past life that has left such a bad taste in your mouth regarding me?

  57. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 1:33 PM  

    I have in fact said that your previous recaps were excellent.

    And why you gotta take it to the asshole level regarding my comments on Groovy's recaps? Her recaps are funny too.

    That's what I never got about you. I don't think I've ever heard you direct a comment or statement towards me that wasn't chalk full of underhanded, disguised disgust. I'm wondering what I've done in this life or a past life that has left such a bad taste in your mouth regarding me?

  58. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 1:34 PM  

    Ok now on to my personal opinion, LARISSA ain't going no where because Mo thinks she can really help her, she even said it on the extras, and I think that it's true. Bootz could use some help calming down her attitude.

    I feel like I can beat up any girl, any size on any given day, but I don't talk about it, I be about it. I just stay quiet until I'm ready to go(I haven't faught in a while but u know what i'm saying.) Bootz does that to scare people, and everyone is different. If she didn't use so many b^&$%#s, h*$s, and m%$^&#f@#$%#s then she could really sound intelligent when she cuts people down.

    I don't think Leiline would beat bootz, contrary to what many say. When I look at bootz I don't see a person who loses fights at all, she's a ghetto chick, not a hood rat but she can box like one, and thats just from being around the way.

    The episode was the best I've seen so far.

  59. steups // 7/5/07 1:35 PM  

    wait, are you talking about the Bush rhetoric?
    Well you are wrong because
    1) we were talking about VH1 airing that particular footage. It mattered not whether it was the guy's personal opinion or not

    2) how do you know it wasn't his personal opinion?

    3) we then branched off to a separate issue of Liberal Professors brainwashing their students with their Liberal agenda

  60. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 1:35 PM  

    LOL At Misty. Girl u crack me up.LMAO Yeah she is really BRAVE to put rollers in that mess of a weave, wig or whatever.LOL

  61. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 1:38 PM  

    Steups, just by watching charm school, I DO NOT like monique. She fake! How she gone encourage them not to have attitudes and she jump up like she was about to hit bootz, talkin' bout she pissed. I got her pissed. ugh she makes me mad.

  62. steups // 7/5/07 1:39 PM  

    Don't know why you'd think that Negrolicious but I can say that many people take my comments and spin it into a negative then blame me for their 'misinterpreted' opinion.

    All I said was I've never seen you praise any of my recaps. If I am wrong, I am wrong.
    It's not exactly Powell testifying before the UN.
    It was a mistake.

  63. steups // 7/5/07 1:39 PM  

    She did say she was wrong Elle.
    For that particular outburst

  64. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 1:41 PM  

    Steups I'm just letting you know that in EVERY debate(teams) room, issues will be discussed where the coach will have to let them know how to answer a particular question. No I don't think it was his opinion because I used to say stuff like that when we had practice debates before competition and it most definately ain't my opinion.

  65. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 1:42 PM  

    Again, with the smart ass comments on the end. You're a trip. One does not have to be a rocket scientist to see the blatant disgust you've had towards me since day one. Im just trying to figure out where it came from. Apparently, that is a waste of time becuz for whatever reason, you've chosen not to like me. And that's okay. I'll continue to be kind towards you anyhow.

    As far as blaming you, there is no blame. It was simple curiosity as to why you seemingly have a strong distaste for me.

  66. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 1:42 PM  

    Yea she said she was wrong, but that doesn't take it away. She didn't walk back into the room and say, "ladies i'm sorry, that was very hipocritcal" she walked out like "yea i'm gangsta and I want her to jump stupid with me cause i ain't the one"

  67. steups // 7/5/07 1:43 PM  

    Negrolicious, I apologise.
    It must have been back in the ILNY recap days because I would have remembered a compliment from you for Charm chool

  68. steups // 7/5/07 1:44 PM  

    Elle, but still, you can't know.
    And in fact given that he is at Cal State, Black and in his twenties he has an 80% chance, I'd wager, of believing the words he uttered.

  69. Anonymous // 7/5/07 1:44 PM  

    Great recap. i hate that cristal had to go home. cristal would have outshined the rest eventually.

    i dont know how on earth sapphire can critique anyones personal appearance. there is not one person on earth who she is in a position to critique on person appearance. because there are very few people who look worse than her. not only is her face, hair, and clothes, whack but her attitude is.

  70. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 1:45 PM  

    You would be correct. It was in the ILNY recaps that I first complimented you. No need for apologies, Sir.

  71. steups // 7/5/07 1:46 PM  

    Now Negro. I apologised.
    But that's the way I talk, that's the way I write.

    I add bits at the end. And mind you, it's not like I was wrong. This is the first time you've said it for a CS Recap.

    So once again; I apologise.

  72. steups // 7/5/07 1:48 PM  

    That's what I am saying anon.
    She is the kettle and the pot.

    She's a hairdresser with a busted weave

  73. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 1:48 PM  

    anon u can save that, cristal ain't even cute she just light skinned and thats ALL she got going for her. Saphyri is nice, funny and can talk about more than herself. She knew she had a problem and she went to anger management, even when vh1 made her look like she was dumb and uneducated, she came back and showed everyone that she wasn't that person. Cristal aint' done nothing but show her tail, talk about herself and backstab her friends

  74. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 1:49 PM  

    But Gabby can you recall the Reunion show when Something beat the crap out of Bootz?

  75. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 1:50 PM  

    No need for apologies. I enjoyed your recap and will continue to do so with your future recaps, Im sure.

  76. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 1:52 PM  

    I didn't see something beat up bootz, when did that happen? I saw them arguing but nnnaaah i didn't see eithe rone of'em through a punch at each other

  77. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 1:55 PM  

    Well it is alleged. Cause in one of the older posts before you started to comment here Steups posted a pic of Bootz before and after a fight she had and she was towed up.

    At first we thought it was NY who gave her the beatdown then it was alleged dat it was Something.

    Ask Steups for the Photo. Its the FOL 2 Reunion Show.

  78. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 1:57 PM  

    Steups let me see that photo.

    Electra I never saw a photo of beauts looking jacked

  79. The Purple Mist // 7/5/07 1:57 PM  

    Elle, I remember you saying you were 19, or something, right? I'm not that much older than you(I'm 25), but there is a distinct generation gap between us, and this generation of teenagers and young adults are all about how much money they can get their hands on without really working for it, and how much sex they can have before they turn 18. I wish more women of your generation(hell, more men too) had your intelligence, drive and ethics. Every time you come in here you blow me away with your comments. You are truly going to go far in this world. I know I sound old as hell, but I had to give respect where respect is due. *steps off soap box* Where was I? Oh yeah, anyone from ATL up in here? I'm thinking of relocating there next year...

  80. steups // 7/5/07 1:59 PM  

    Damn Elle, you are not feeling Cristal uh.
    I admit Saaphyri has had some great moments.

    Sorry about the misunderstanding Negrolicious.
    And maybe you should know that Groovy and I have resolved all issues and disagreements.

  81. Anonymous // 7/5/07 2:04 PM  

    GABRIELLE THEM BITCHES WERE/ARE NOT FRIENDS.THIS IS A COMPETITION AND ABOVE ALL A TELEVISION SHOW FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY.YOU SOUND REEEEEEAL YOUNG.

  82. steups // 7/5/07 2:04 PM  

    dang purple mist. Seems you've encountered a few

  83. Electra (trinidad) // 7/5/07 2:05 PM  

    Steups send Elle the Pick.

    Yes Elle I was very surprised when I saw that pic of Bootz looking dat way.

  84. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:05 PM  

    Actually Christal has done things. Just because she shown her tail doesn't mean she is not making a salary. First off when you are a model it's the clients that request how they want certain shots not the model and if the client is going to paid top money for there product to be see then the model has to do it. Did you know alot of these models are making over 100 grand a year just by showing their ass. Another things Cristal does alot of charity stuff and plus work with the kids.

  85. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 2:05 PM  

    AWWW GEE WILIKERS, THAT JUST WON MY HEART over... thank you Sierra Mist. It's all worth being alone in the World, when you hear stuff like that.

    Steups, no I really don't like Cristial, but it's because you made it that way to be honest. I can respect a girl who is intelligent and a model, but her attitude about looking better than everyone (*lifting up her shirt"if it don't look like this then it don't matter," roseary beeds in her chest to show off clevage, and climbing on the kitchen counter"it's every mans fantasy to see a fol girl in a school girl uniform" she did all that and you love her because she's a model... she never once made an intelligent statement, she never showed that she was a role model or that she was trying to change to become a better model because she thinks she's the "ish" already.

    Just knowing that a man like you goes crazy for a girl like that, really just put her in a negative light for me, cause she's not special and she's not pretty to me.

  86. Anonymous // 7/5/07 2:08 PM  

    19. THAT MAKES SENSE. WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING? PURPLEMIST I LOVED YOUR DEMURE LITTLE FLUFF LINE, THAT IS SOOOO TRUE. STEUPS I THINK JUST BECAUSE YOU SHOULDNT CHANGE DOESNT MEAN YOU CANT IMPROVE IS MY NEW MYSPACE HEADLINE. THANKS!

  87. Anonymous // 7/5/07 2:10 PM  

    NEVER MADE AN INTELLIGENT COMMENT BUT YOU LOVE SAFARRI? LMAO, YOU MIGHT BE YOUNG BUT YOU ARE HILARIOUS. YOU NEED TO WATCH THE VSPOT VIDEO OF THE REST OF WHAT SHE SAYS WHEN SHE IS EXPELLED.

  88. steups // 7/5/07 2:11 PM  

    You're welcome.

    Elle it sounds a lot better when you say it the way she said it with the accent, lol.

  89. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 2:12 PM  

    Anon, I hope u are much older than me because I like to see people act immature when trying to downplay a person, makes u look real big. Thats all I will say to u.

    Fab... in what episode would a girl my age or younger who would like to be a model one day get a good look at her being a positive role model?

  90. mysty // 7/5/07 2:13 PM  

    great recap steups... hopefully now that Cristal is eliminated you will stop being her #1 Stan

  91. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:14 PM  

    I apologize as well Steups.

    As far as you and Groovy goes, I'm happy for you that you guys were able to resolve whatever issues you had. I'm not quite sure why I should know that but it's good news nonetheless. I'm sure youre both happy about the resolve

  92. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 2:15 PM  

    lol steups, everyone has their opinions and I didn't watch NOT one episode of FOL 1 so I really didn't know what she offered to the viewers in season 1, just by seeing her now after u had played her up on the blog, i was like "HE IS NOT SERIOUS" i think she mentioned she was mixed with something, light skinned girls get play just for being light skinned, she just aint' cute to me.

  93. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:16 PM  

    Shawn!!!!!!!!!! What up, Ma?

  94. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:16 PM  

    Gabby, for real I think most people would go beyond a reality show to judge a person. Damn right with all the things I have accomplish I probably would act the same way.

    Gabby, most models these days act way more snobbish so you tend to go around that.

    Cristal is not really like that. She's very open hearted and kind person.

  95. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:17 PM  

    Nothing Much Licious. Sitting here with a friend so she can read the recaps while we are eating.

  96. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:18 PM  

    By the way, Steups, when you are going to resolve whatever issues you have with Q? I don't know what happened, (none of us do I don't think) but she has asked us not to mention your name anymore.

    I don't know what I missed when I left to do my interview but it seemed like things went from zero to sixty.

    Hopefully yall will work whatver out.

  97. steups // 7/5/07 2:18 PM  

    Wait, y'all think Serious will no longer be heard around here?
    Y'all must be crazy, or derr-raged.

  98. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:19 PM  

    OMG Im starving! What are you eating? This stupid diet is gonna be the DEATH of me! Or at least I hope so!

  99. steups // 7/5/07 2:20 PM  

    Thanks for making that public NEGROLICIOUS.

    I asked her to marry and for her to come live with me and she got angry and I got angry and said a few things I should not have.

    I think I said something like if I were white, and illiterate you'd say "yes"

  100. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 2:20 PM  

    Fab, i'm watching the same show you are watching, so unless u have the uncut version of Charm School or u know her personally then I don't know what you are talkin' about. I never compared her to other models, I really don't care how other models act to be honest. I was commenting one what I saw when I saw CRISTAL on charm school, has nothing to do with other models being snobby. I didn't judge her, LIKE I SAID, we all have our opinions. Hop off ya horse and let me have my opinion cause u got yours.

  101. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:22 PM  

    I am eating a sandwich and salad.

    Steups, I hope you and her work it out.

    Great recaps.

  102. steups // 7/5/07 2:23 PM  

    I think Elle has a teensy weensy point about light-skin girls.
    Teensy-weensy in this particular example but a huge point otherwise.

    We all know black folk overvalue light-skin relatives

  103. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:24 PM  

    By the all caps, I assume you are displeased. I had no idea it was a private matter. My humblest apologies, Steups.

    I didn't ask for, nor do I desire any details. I was just concerened cuz I know, or at least I assumed, you all were good friends. I was hoping it could be worked out.

    Again, I apologize.

  104. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:25 PM  

    That sounds yummy, Shawn. I think Im going to turn into a salad. But one actually sounds pretty good right about now.

  105. mysty // 7/5/07 2:25 PM  

    I also agree with Gabrielle on the skin color issue. I'm not that far from light skin myself, but I do notice that both men and women tend to view light skinned people (regardless of race) as more attractive.. even if they don't have attractive features.

  106. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:26 PM  

    yeah you are right Gabby about your opinions but wasn't you the same one that just said you didn't like cristal because of Steups. Now that is pretty lame to be honest. And Yes I have talk Cristal to know she is a kind hearted female. We don't get to see the whole show alot of it are edit.

    Hey I love horses and love to ride so thanks for reminding me.

  107. steups // 7/5/07 2:26 PM  

    Actually nothing happened. It was just one of those things where you wanted to end a partnership for 999 reasons that occurred months before and you invented the 100th reason to push you towards making the decision.

    "It don't matter", no one is upset by what transpired and there is no reason why I can't do what I can from where I am to help the site as much as I am able -to.

  108. The Purple Mist // 7/5/07 2:27 PM  

    Steups, it just makes me sad that the generation my own's priorities seem to be all effed up. I may have not been a huge fan of most of the people I went to HS with, but I will say before anything else that they were a group of driven, focused, and intelligent people who are working hard to accomplish their life goals. This age group of 16-22 is nowhere near that. Most of them have no goals, no plans to go to college or do something worthwhile with their lives, and their concern lies more into landing the richest guy or loosest girl. They're loud, obnoxious, and have no interest in making their lives the very best. Maybe that's why Chance annoyed me so much. They represent this lost generation, and why anyone would idolize that or find it cute is beyond me. At 19 it's almost tolerable, but try dealing with that at 30. Yeesh. That's why I admire Elle and the few like her, she is a rare find.

    Anon @ 2:05, thanks for the compliment! I don't know if your question was a general one, but I work as at a receptionist at a marketing company, but I'm trying to build up my career as a freelance illustrator.

  109. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 2:28 PM  

    Fab-first i thought we was having an actual conversation about something, but once a person stops making sense, I stop wasting my time. You jump from argument to argument on something different, u said I was judging her, then that other models or more snobby then where my opinion came from, WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

  110. steups // 7/5/07 2:28 PM  

    And I still don't get why you can't talk about yourself. Especially when Mo'Nique asks YOU why YOU shouldn't be eliminated

  111. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:29 PM  

    Well Steups, Im disappointed that you're no longer there. Your presence is missed.

  112. steups // 7/5/07 2:29 PM  

    I meant a 1000th.
    Elle you are feisty aren't you?

  113. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:32 PM  

    My point is this Gabby you don't know the girl but only from a reality show so to say you don't like someone all because of a guy that is worshipping her is kinda crazy. Another thing you have to realize about TV they don't show everything.

    But like you mention it's your opinion so live with it.

  114. The Purple Mist // 7/5/07 2:32 PM  

    I meant "behind my own's generation" sorry...

  115. Anonymous // 7/5/07 2:32 PM  

    GOOD LUCK WITH EVERYTHING PURPLE. BEING A DEMURE LITTLE FLUFF WONT WORK FOR YOU IF YOU TRYING TO MAKE IT TO THE TOP OF YOUR INDUSTRY EITHER.

  116. steups // 7/5/07 2:32 PM  

    Negro are you fishing for something?
    Because really you should be directing all this to Q.

    She did it, not me. She did the "avada kedavra" spell on me

  117. mysty // 7/5/07 2:33 PM  

    Steups, I don't think the issue is that you can't talk about yourself...it just seemed that EVERYTIME they showed Cristal talking she was speaking about herself (editing?). She even brought herself into the debate about Larissa's anger management issues. The thing I disliked more than her verbal diarrhea was the fact that she was always tryna get the judges on her side. Becky should have been mad when she pretended to have nothing to do with that dress when she was the one who sewed the damn thing together. I bet if they would have won she'd have taken credit for it.

  118. steups // 7/5/07 2:34 PM  

    I don't think she ever said that Fab. Though I may have missed it

  119. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:35 PM  

    Steups??? Where do you get the impression that I'm fishing for something? All I said was I hope you guys can work it out and that I missed you over there. WTF? I swear, I can do no right in your eyes. It was a simple declaration of emotion... MY BAD!

    If I want to know something, I don't fish, I ask. Only simple bitches fish. As far as Q, I've had my say with Q as well and told her how I felt.

  120. Anonymous // 7/5/07 2:36 PM  

    SERIOUS IS NOT MIXED (ACCORDING TO HER MODEL PAGE).SHE NEVER SAID SHE WAS PRETTIER THAN ANYONE.SHE SAID SHE WAS A MODEL WHICH SHE IS.SHE SAID HER BOOBS ARE GREAT WHICH THEY ARE. SHE CARRIED HERSELF HIGHLY AS ALL PEOPLE, MALE OR FEMALE, BLACK OR WHITE, LIGHT OR DARK SHOULD.

  121. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 2:36 PM  

    lol, no i just notice that EVERYTIME, anybody gets a little compliment, there is ALWAYS a hater, I'll admit that I don't like cristal, but I'll say that it ain't hate, because I don't "not like" models, I just didn't like her personality on the show.

    Anyways, like I was saying, when people see that you not agreeing with them, they come up with idiotic reasons to try to make u look dumb or like u don't know what u talking about, when they are actually reflecting the dumbness on theyself. You know I got 3 jobs steups, I am NOT about wating my time. If u gone come at me on "some more ish" then come correct.

  122. steups // 7/5/07 2:36 PM  

    I think it was Shay who brought Cristal into that debate Mysty. I may be wrong but she said something like why are you talking about Larissa when you have problems too

  123. steups // 7/5/07 2:38 PM  

    Negro...I like to accuse first and apologise after.
    If you knew the hitory you'd understand
    1) leaked email
    2) conference calls
    3) conference calls with one person unaware he's being listened to

    You tend to shoot first under those circumstances

  124. mysty // 7/5/07 2:38 PM  

    You are wrong Steups...Cristal said she had an anger management problem herself, that's why she recognized that Larissa had one. Shay responded by saying that she shouldn't talk about Larissa's anger management problem because Cristal has a lot of other issues too.

  125. steups // 7/5/07 2:40 PM  

    Did I come at you, Elle?
    I am saying to Fab that you never said you disliked her because of me.

  126. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:40 PM  

    Actually, If you want to get technical I am proud that you got 3 job but honey I will never hate on another female especially when we all have the same thing. So if you want to brag finish school, go to law school, get your home. Start your company along with working in the government for 20 years. What else make sure you start a 401k, cd, stocks and a portfolio.

    Gabby I have more nest eggs then you can count so no dummy over.

  127. Anonymous // 7/5/07 2:40 PM  

    SERIOUS DOES TALK TOO MUCH BUT WHICH OF THESE GIRLS DONT? SHE TALK ABOUT HERSELF WHICH IS BETTER THAN TALKING SHIT ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE RIGHT? IN A PROFESSIONAL DEBATE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO TIE IN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES TO PROVE YOUR POINT (I WAS ON THE DEBATE TEAM IN HIGH SCHOOL AND I AM PRE LAW NOW SO I KNOW THE RULES)

  128. steups // 7/5/07 2:41 PM  

    I might be wrong but I thought Shay spoke about her first then Serious said she had an AM problem.
    I'll listen to it again

  129. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:41 PM  

    Quanda did all of those things to you?!?

    Well, just for future reference, I am not an Eye Spy. If I have something to say to you then Im going to say it. No phone taps, no forwarding, no fishing. Straight and to the point, thats how I get down. No more, no less.

  130. steups // 7/5/07 2:43 PM  

    Anon, I thought she'd have done a better job than Saaphyri who was piss-poor.

    And wtf is up with Ms Utopia, Mikki Taylor blaming Cristal for not convincing her team-mates to select her.

    Is Mikki Taylor in this universe?

  131. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:43 PM  

    Oh yeah see I am one of those person that have hired Cristal to do a photoshoot for me for a product that my company is coming out with. So the next time you see her with her ass that is because of me aka the client that pays her.

  132. steups // 7/5/07 2:43 PM  

    Not Quanda!
    Nooooooooooooo, not Quanda.

    Please.
    Not Quanda.

  133. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:44 PM  

    CTFU @ Shawn....

    *thats a BAD bitch right there...*

  134. Angel // 7/5/07 2:45 PM  

    Larissa (Bootz) made me proud on this episode for the most part, in the way she stood up to Mo'Nique because Mo'Nique wasn't that fair in her judgment. The Affirmative team DID go off topic and go into more issues that had nothing to do with the debate. Larissa was a mess for getting drunk though and arguing with Leilene. Leilene is a punkass for threatening her and not doing anything. You guys have to see the continuation of their argument on VSpot. Larissa is drunk as hell and she makes a big scene out of their beef. It's hilarious.

  135. steups // 7/5/07 2:45 PM  

    I never said Quanda, ok.
    She's been straight with me throughout.

    I am saying I've learnt to not trust people on the Internet because it's an opaque universe

  136. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 2:46 PM  

    Steups no u didn't come at me I was just explaining that I wasn't fiesty, just fed up with dumb stuff.

    Fab- BRAG? I WASN'T EVEN TALKIN TO U, YA NAME AIN'T STEUPS. I am too through with u, I ain't going to no law school sooo since u making up crap, i'mma leave u alone with yo crap and yo eggs.

    Mysty I agree with u, she did turn the debate around on her, as i saw on vh1.com but they may have edited it or something i don't know.

  137. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:46 PM  

    My point, Steups, is that I am not whoever has done those things to you in the past... I don't get down like that. Period.

  138. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:46 PM  

    Hell I work hard for my shit Licious. I am proud for any female that is trying to do something with their lives. But you start bragging and shit and saying I am hating.

    Hell you got pussy, ass and mouth like I have so why the hell would I hate on any female out here.

  139. steups // 7/5/07 2:47 PM  

    But why did Leilene confront her in the first place.
    You know you aint about shit so why start shit.

    Elle, where are you sweetie? I never came at you so return to the box please.

  140. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:47 PM  

    "i'mma leave u alone with yo crap and yo eggs."

    Shawn? I thought you said you were eating a sam'ich and a salad?

  141. mysty // 7/5/07 2:48 PM  

    Take another listen Steups...Shay said something about Cristal talking about herself in the confessional, but it was Cristal who brought herself into the Larissa debate.

    To Anon @ 2:40.. I hope your caps don't mean you are trying to yell at people because it's not that serious. lol Anyway, Cristal did not prove her point that Larissa has an anger management problem (although we can clearly see she does). She said everyone has seen her blow up and mentioned that the fact that she has an anger management problem herself, she could recognize it in Larissa. Though the first point can be substantiated, the second is not a verifyable fact, something you should know from the debate team.

  142. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 2:48 PM  

    Angel, u took the words right out of my mind ;)

  143. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:49 PM  

    That's right, girl! I ain't mad atcha. I've only known you to be a source of empowerment to the ladies.

  144. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:49 PM  

    LOL I am. My friend wanted to see did anyone catch the shot where Larissa bop the other chick in the head.

    She actually like the recaps on this site.

  145. steups // 7/5/07 2:49 PM  

    Yes Negrolicious...you are right.

    By the way, we should vote for Elle's brother

  146. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:50 PM  

    I thought so, Shawn! But when nobody said anything about it I thought maybe I was trippin??

  147. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 2:52 PM  

    Steups u missed my message, I said I wasn't blowing up at you I was just explaining that I wasn't fiesty, I was just done with the haters.

    Negro-not cute.

  148. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:52 PM  

    DAYUM Anon 2:50!

  149. steups // 7/5/07 2:52 PM  

    only Pumkin is called a cunt on thi blog

  150. steups // 7/5/07 2:53 PM  

    I saw the message but too late, lol.
    I am going to grab that audio and sort out my girl cristal once and for all

  151. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:53 PM  

    Gabrielle, I think Im QUITE cute. The shit was funny and TOO easy. I had to go for it. Dont take it personally

  152. mysty // 7/5/07 2:53 PM  

    Thanks for the deletion Steups...people love to be disrespectful under the guise of being anonymous..

  153. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 2:54 PM  

    Anon I wasn't the person who told negro not to use nigga, I use nigga all the time. Get ya facts straight. The fact that u calling me all them words, all I can do is say "to heaven with you" cause u not worth my time.

  154. steups // 7/5/07 2:54 PM  

    that was sexy Shauntay who told Negrolicious that, not Elle.

  155. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:55 PM  

    WAIT! Hold the presses! WHO THE HELL TOLD ME NOT TO USE THE N-WORD????

    Lemme scroll up cuz I MOS DEF missed that bullshit!

  156. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:55 PM  

    Ok I did I miss something? Is anyone else hating on Gabby in this box? Damn this must be a dream.

    Sorry Gabby boo you are so not worth it. And if you think I am hating over Steups tried it again. Me and Steups will always be cool and will always talk to each other.

  157. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 2:56 PM  

    negro- i just don't like cosigners. Don't jump in unless u ready

  158. Anonymous // 7/5/07 2:57 PM  

    NO... IM NOT YELLING, I WRITE IN ALL CAPS TOO LOL SORRY.

    MYSTY (AND WHOMEVER ELSE) YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU ARE PARTICIPATING IN A PROFESSIONAL DEBATE SO EITHER WAY, SERIOUS WAS RIGHT.SHE COULD HAVE REALLY HELPED HER TEAM IN THE DEBATE.

  159. steups // 7/5/07 2:57 PM  

    Yeah mysty you're right.
    She says I have an AM myself then Shay says you also have other problems...

    But that opens up a whole can of worms. Shay is friendly with both girls so why is she outing their business on tv?

    WTF does she mean by you have "other problems"

  160. Anonymous // 7/5/07 2:57 PM  

    FAB DO YOU KNOW SERIOUS?

  161. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 2:58 PM  

    Gabby, that wasn't a co-sign. It was me crackin up at you goin flip mode squad. Shawn doesnt need any co-signers. She is vicious with her mouthpiece and needs no help from me. So dont try to get crazy with me... I eat simple bitches like you for lunch everyday.

  162. steups // 7/5/07 2:58 PM  

    not today Negro.
    It was a week ago.

  163. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 2:58 PM  

    Licious you can do whatever you want. It's a free world.

  164. steups // 7/5/07 2:59 PM  

    ok, let's keep it on topic.
    No need to get personal or make it a battle.

  165. Anonymous // 7/5/07 2:59 PM  

    I JUST LOOKED AT GABRIELLES BROTHER LOL I BET HE THINKS SERIOUS IS HOT, LIKE EVERY OTHER HETEROSEXUAL NONHATING MALE

  166. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 3:00 PM  

    Fab what are you talkin about? I'm done with that convo. Let it go. You grown, on the real we can squash that cause our debate wasn't going anywhere. I don't want steup to hate on u, I don't even know you.

    Negro-that was about 3 days ago when she said that. You were commenting on whiteboy and chance.

  167. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 3:01 PM  

    I didn't see that one AT ALL.. ever! Cuz I dayum sure woulda said something about it.

    I say what the hell I want to say, when I want to say... just like EVERYBODY else up in this box. Last time I checked my Mama didn't leave comments in this box and shes bout the only person who can tell me what I can & can't say and even THAT don't go down anymore cuz IM GROWN.

    As far as me calling Gabby a simple bitch, I shouldnt have done that. It was wrong and I apologize. I was even giving her compliments earlier on her whole breakdown of the debate situation. I shouldn't have spit fire like that and I apologize Gabby....

    MAN.. this shit is hilarious!

  168. mysty // 7/5/07 3:02 PM  

    I don't think Shay was right either.. I know she was supposed to be winning the debate, but her comment about Bootz was NOT about why her team should be eliminated from Charm School. She purposely said something to hurt someone she calls her friend so that she would fall apart (pretty dirty). If what you say is true and she's friends with Cristal also, she's twice as dirty and lacks integrity. The only one I really like is Courtney, but I must question her judgement for being friends with Pumkin. lol But she does manage to stay away from the drama and was fair in her judgement of the fashion show, even though it meant not picking her "best" friend.

  169. The Purple Mist // 7/5/07 3:03 PM  

    Thanks Anon @ 2:32pm. I'm not the most aggressive person in the world, but I'm working hard to attain my well-deserved happiness in both my professional and personal life :-).

    And speaking of aggression, it's getting a little to much of that up in here for my taste...there's always one that has to take it to an unnecessary level and be all "ignant". We can have differing opinions without getting nasty, sheesh. So I'm out y'all, have a good day!

  170. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 3:03 PM  

    my brother has never seen serious, but he may. I don't really care, everyone has different taste.

    Fab- you are shawn?

    Negro- you are a joke and since u called me a b%^&h. I know that you are not worth my time. If u can't come harder than that when u trying to insult me then u ain't nothing worth getting mad at.

  171. steups // 7/5/07 3:04 PM  

    lmao..y'all trippin' now.


    Elle, let me get those pics Electra spoke about

  172. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 3:04 PM  

    CTFU @ it's a free world. Thank you, Shawn... I WISH I woulda seen that comment when it happened. Now Imma say the N-word all day LMAO.. naw Im playin!

  173. mysty // 7/5/07 3:05 PM  

    Steups.. I want to see the pics of Bootz too

  174. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 3:05 PM  

    First of all Gabby, I apologized for calling you a simple bitch. 2nd of all, it wasn't an insult, it was a description. There's a difference, Love.

  175. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 3:05 PM  

    i'll take that back since u appologize negro but i had wrote that before i saw what u typed.

  176. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 3:06 PM  

    Steups? How does that Anon know your dick is big and fat?

  177. steups // 7/5/07 3:07 PM  

    I have to resize the pics because the blog was a smaller size back in the day.

    But here's the link Elle.
    Bootz looking a hot mess after the fight

  178. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 3:08 PM  

    negro with our little spat aside, I don't agree with you saying nigga even though I wasn't the one who asked u not to, but I don't agree with me saying nigga too, so I can't try to tell u that until I can fix myself. I do have a question though, what is the meaning of the name negrolicious to u?

  179. mysty // 7/5/07 3:11 PM  

    Anon @ 3:09... did you just get home from preschool? Have your snack and chill out! LMAO

  180. Anonymous // 7/5/07 3:12 PM  

    STEUPS CAN YOU SNAG VIDEOS FROM VSPOT?

  181. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 3:13 PM  

    haha anon, i'mma call u my #1 hater. I don't even have haters and u my only one. I don't refer to myself as a b&%^h so why would i want to be the hbic? matter of fact i don't refer to any female as that.


    ANYWHO, steups u gone blow the pic up? I really just see her hair messed up but i do see a little dark action by her chin.

    WAIT, Anon are u omar?

  182. Anonymous // 7/5/07 3:15 PM  

    No Mysty.I am tired of fraudulent bitches up in here.My apologies to u 4 being on ur nerves.

  183. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 3:15 PM  

    Anon 3:09, That's between you and Gabrielle. But it seems to me you hatin on her awfully hard up in here. DAYUM!

    Gabrielle, you don't ahve to agree with me saying the word Nigga. That's what makes this country so wonderful! Free speech! I've tappered off my use of the word over the years but whenever I DO say it, it's becuz I mean it. Whether that's right or wrong, who's to say. There's something comforting about the word nigga when said amongst "family". But, I digress.

    What does Negrolicious mean to YOU, Gabrielle?

  184. steups // 7/5/07 3:17 PM  

    I can but not too good.
    But I can simply grab it from Itunes.

    Any video you want in particular

  185. steups // 7/5/07 3:18 PM  

    Negrolicious that anon is Irre.
    A boy with whom I had a homosexual affair a few years ago.

    I put him in hospital after one night when I was too eager and he has been saying I have a fat one ever since.

  186. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 3:19 PM  

    well when i saw it i figured that u liked black guys. I can't assume thats true though, thats why I asked u.

    The only reason I said I didn't agree was because anon said that I was the one who told u not to say it, and u were talking pretty hard about how u can say whatever, I know for a fact (just with my bad attitude) that that's internet talk. Once people get out amongst black people they don't know and get rowdy like that, things get ugly. Thats why I'm not getting mad about it. I was just explaining that I can't get mad at you for saying that "u gone say it if u want" cause I say it, and it's not about me being black. But we all know how that goes.

  187. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 3:19 PM  

    DAAAYUUUUUUUUUMMMM Steups, it's like that??? I had no idea. Homosexual behavior aside, if it's that big, I'm impressed LOL

  188. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 3:20 PM  

    lol steups i need u to stop it.

  189. steups // 7/5/07 3:21 PM  

    No comment on Bootz looking a mess after she ran into a right hook from New York?

  190. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 3:22 PM  

    steups, where are the videos or testimonies from witnesses about bootz getting hit by something or new york?

  191. steups // 7/5/07 3:23 PM  

    So, Negrolicious isn't black?
    I thought you were?

    Now you see that's proof right there that I am not fully black because if I were 100% black I'd know you weren't black

  192. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 3:24 PM  

    Gabrielle, no, Negrolicious does not mean I like black guys. Although, I do enjoy The Chocolate.

    As far as it being "internet talk", I'm not going to say too much regarding that because I feel I may be misinterpreting what you're trying to say. However, I will say this, I say what I want, when I want, where I want. I am a grown woman. I am not intimidated by anyone. If I say something that people aren't feeling, whethere it be in the hood or at a tea party, I am willing, ready, and able to defend myself in both word and action.

  193. Negrolicious // 7/5/07 3:26 PM  

    You would be correct, Steups, I am black. I am mixed, but I am black nonetheless.

    Black, Spanish, & Apache Indian to be exact.

  194. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 3:26 PM  

    what does negrolicious mean to you?

    Steups her picture is next to her name.

  195. steups // 7/5/07 3:27 PM  

    They don't exist really. There was the reunion video when you can see (though not conclusively) that New York threw a punch whilst protected by a bodyguard.

    Subsequent to that...Bootz said New York never hit her.

    Oh and to answer Mysty about Shay and Serious. Back in the day someone came here and called Shay all kinds of names.
    Then another ATL model all but said it was Serious saying those things under an anonymous tag.

    Eventually Cristal wrote us and we published it where she said she would never do that and she and Shay are the best of friend.

    Y'all late to the party. Here used to be poppin with girls from the show.

    And y'all may also not know that a contestant stole tapes from Shay with her boyfriend at home and sent it to me.
    I still have the tapes and they've never been aired.

  196. steups // 7/5/07 3:28 PM  

    She looked black to me, well half black.

  197. FabulousGlamourVixen // 7/5/07 3:29 PM  

    Yes Gabby this is Shawn.

    Wow Steups for coming out with that information and now we all know.

  198. Anonymous // 7/5/07 3:30 PM  

    See this y I say she a simple bitch!

    One with an ounce of sense would think it means she is black and delicious.Is it that hard?

    Steups I love you but u make me sick with these simple bitches on ur nuts.

  199. *Gabrielle* Vote for my Brother http://ilovenewyork2.com/people/CalT // 7/5/07 3:31 PM  

    negro i'mma hate to appologize to u, cause yo pic is condenced on here and it makes u look like u are about a 19 year old (caucasian) lol female. After u said u were mixed with Indian, I was like "let me go check that out" and then I saw the full pic and your age and I went off of a total misconception, thats why I was explaining the "nigga" comment with u. But seeing the pic now, lol u in my ballpark. I can step up and say my bad.

  200. steups // 7/5/07 3:32 PM  

    anon you love the hot gay sex we had.
    I'll leave that comment but know Elle is nether a bitch nor a simpleton.

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